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So, I spent all day working on my bud's 05 636. Little things like bleeding brakes, new clutch and brake lever, new air filter, blah blah. The bike ran fine every time it was started no problem all day. As we were finishing up he wanted to take it out for a test run. He started it and it ran fine for about 3 minutes and dies out. We then could not get it to start again. I figured maybe the battery died out since the bike sat for a while. (Mind you that was a long sit for all I know, this is a 2005 with only 989 original miles on the bike). I put a voltmeter on the battery and got a reading of 12.20 volts. Steady reading no jumping around. I figured I'd put it on my 1 amp trickle charge anyhow. The bike used to flash the FI light at me when trying to start and then click as if the battery was low. Now, the FI light does not come on, no clicks and an extremely strong crank. I took the fuel pump out of the tank to be sure it worked and shot fuel out of the metal line which it did just fine. No fix.

Now some background on the bike, he bought it from some backwoods asshole who took the muffler off and has been pretty much running it straight piped for idk how long. I am hoping for his sake it did not kill the engine. I cannot figure out how an 05 has only 989 miles on it. 1000 miles is usually the break in point on these bikes if I remember correctly, so I highly doubt this guy broke it i n properly. I know this could be a number of things that cannot be answered without the bike in front of them, but maybe some past experience with a similar issue may be of help. The kid who owns the bike is going to buy a new battery tomorrow morning to rule that problem out. I am going to go through some of the wiring to see if anything shorted out or maybe a connection got broken. Oh and the battery never died but the clock on the gauge reset itself, now I am thinking it is the ECU

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Looked over the whole bike today. Found a couple things, including a vacuum hose that was disconnected and a fuel line was not pushed and locked onto the metal line fully. Also found that the tilt sensor was previously taken apart, it is basically empty(but if that was the problem the bike wouldn't throw spark or turn the fuel pump on) which it does. New battery voltage is above 12.8 volts as specified in the manual. I got the bike to turn over and make some noise for a bit but as soon as I let off the starter button nothing. I am now back to square 1 where it is not even giving the smallest fire. Tomorrow getting a new ECU and a tilt sensor. I also bypassed the sidestand switch and the clutch release switch to see but nothing. The motor is basically new so I cannot fathom there being a loss of compression or a timing issue but who knows. I also tested the starter relay and it tested good and works

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Extremely strong crank...

Is this scooter still building compression?
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I hope so, gonna do that check tomorrow when I tear the POS apart again

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F*** my life, spark plugs were fouled. At least I was able to find and fix like 100 other problems while looking for this one

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