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Show me the bottom of the cylinders please.




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After it completely cooled down...it's a tight .005"
So not too bad. The block sits pretty level on the granite. Although the bottom of the bores are not machined to a nice finish. I couldn't find a service limit in the book. But a heads limit is .002"
I think after it's machined it will be good.

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Just curious, how out of round have the cylinder bores gotten from welding? I be worried about that as well. I know you said its getting bored and replated as well.
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you wont have any issue with your o ringed carpenter head :)

01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 on dot tires, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, 55 shot... turbo 8.32 @ 173
00 ZX-12R 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Worlds Fastest NA Kawasaki
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 249.5 1.5: 266.5 Worlds fastest ZX-12R CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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Just curious, how out of round have the cylinder bores gotten from welding? I be worried about that as well. I know you said its getting bored and replated as well.
I didn't measure the bores after welding. You are correct, they are going to be replated.

Trans and rods are heading to Cooper Performance. The folks down south hav a great rep. Excellent customer service. I have sent a small job down to him in the past and he treated me like gold.
LSR back cut....LOL just your basic trans upgrade.









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Cementing the block. We used to do it in our mustangs. Half way up for a "street" car, all the way up for a "track only". You lose a lot of cooling capability all the way up. I've never heard of usino salt. Maybe the "tuner" guys do it because theyre cheap skates, lol. I've been out of the car scene for a while too so things could have changed.

Summit or Jegs still sells the actual block cement I'm sure.
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block cement is not nearly as good for this type of application, ive tried it, filling a block nearly to the top(about 1/4 in left open). a $60 jug will do countless blocks, but we arent filling it from the bottom we just want to bridge the top, maintaining nearly all of the cooling capacity and making it stronger only where it needs it. im guessing $50 worth of epoxy per block, so this isnt exactly cheaping out. you read the part about washing out the salt right?

01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 on dot tires, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, 55 shot... turbo 8.32 @ 173
00 ZX-12R 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Worlds Fastest NA Kawasaki
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 249.5 1.5: 266.5 Worlds fastest ZX-12R CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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block cement is not nearly as good for this type of application, ive tried it, filling a block nearly to the top(about 1/4 in left open). a $60 jug will do countless blocks, but we arent filling it from the bottom we just want to bridge the top, maintaining nearly all of the cooling capacity and making it stronger only where it needs it. im guessing $50 worth of epoxy per block, so this isnt exactly cheaping out. you read the part about washing out the salt right?
Ah, I'll be honest, I was reading on my phone last night and missed that part. That makes sense now. Interesting process!
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wow. that's something to see. I just tuned in to the Godzilla pic thinking it was regarding the h2and it was, but more importantly, building a 12. the h2 is out of my range for sure, and I am griping a bit about the 200 hp is the old 180 etc, and I have a stock 12r.
wow! nice work on the turbo.... I have pondered it but building my own is beyond my capabilities to be honest.
I am not a builder, but quite interested.
I wasn't sure as per the amount of epoxy used and after I read further, KZS explained that. Coolant flow would be important no doubt. If the block was bridged, is it necessary- or redundant- to flip it over and bridge the bottom too?

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theres nothing to bridge in the bottom that would do anything

01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 on dot tires, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, 55 shot... turbo 8.32 @ 173
00 ZX-12R 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Worlds Fastest NA Kawasaki
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1
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...and I am griping a bit about the 200 hp is the old 180 etc, and I have a stock 12r.
Man isn't that the truth. Rumor is already out that the new BMW S1000RR is dyno'ing 198rwhp, STOCK. The ZX14R is already close to those numbers with just an oil change and break in. The new R1 is rumored to be up there. The H2 and H2R is up there for sure, but we won't ever see those bikes in real life/on the street, so not much to worry about there. I'm sure Suzuki won't take to being left on the sidelines (especially with the 14R stomping it's ass the last few years) I'm guessing a 200rwhp Hayabusa will be release this year or next.
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I didn't measure the bores after welding. You are correct, they are going to be replated.

Trans and rods are heading to Cooper Performance. The folks down south hav a great rep. Excellent customer service. I have sent a small job down to him in the past and he treated me like gold.
LSR back cut....LOL just your basic trans upgrade.









Falicon Knife Edge. Scott and I had a good rode trip. Picked up some nice parts.



Great to see your 100% Cmg and Scott ! PS Those rods look awesome !

Are you guys going to go the standed bore or over sized and if over sized buy how much ??

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Just wandering if you sonic tested the block before all the mods ?
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