I put my new undertail on last night, and since I'd seen this post a week or so ago I figured I'd better check the foam while I had it all apart. It was dry as a bone. However, I did NOT check the connectors themselves. I'll do that tonight after class and report back.



BTW, for recording purposes:



2002, 2500 miles, no wheelies, rarely sees redline, synthetic Mobil 1



Tim



p.s. Blitz, is it possible for you to change the topic to something that might get people's attention a bit more, like ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS: READ THIS NOW! or something like that? We may get a few more replies that way.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=tr emor>TReMor</A> at: 7/18/02 2:49:46 pm

I just got off the phone with my dealer. We found my problem because of

headlight problem's. My light's have went out before (under warranty) and

Kawi. took care of me, no ?'s asked. This time I'm not under warranty and

Kawi. is takin' care of me and covering the bill.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> Anyway, getting back to the

topic. After talkin' with the mechanic, it seem's that the problem is because

there is 150 volt's flowing through those wire's and apparently the oil is not

letting the current flow very well. The fix? For now he cut off the plug and

wired it back together using heat shrink. I/We think this should work.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



Good Luck

Stupid hurts.</p>

BTW. Yes, I do spend a short amount of time on the rear wheel every now

and then.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

Stupid hurts.</p>

Does the regulator/recitifier contain dielectric oil, like a voltage regulator on a car?



Has anyone smelled this oil? Is the oil almost clear that is found in the socket connector?



Work with me here, you may see where I am headed.





"Winter is natures way of saying "Up yours."</p>

Nah man, this is motor oil.

Stupid hurts.</p>

Yeah... it taste like motor oil too. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">



It's motor oil.

02' 12R "red"</p>

Okay. That was just a thought.



If the insulation has a 1/2" break BEFORE the plug connector, I am at a loss to make sense of this.



It makes no sense to me. The physics aren't working.



I must be missing something.

"Winter is natures way of saying "Up yours."</p>

Did you read my post? Do you not think that could be the problem?

Stupid hurts.</p>

Tremor - I changed the subject.....



Blitz it is motor oil, I am at a loss too.



Tenn, I like the idea of taking the connector out, anybody know what the purpose of the connector is??????

Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>

The only purpose the connector serve's is so you can remove/replace the

voltage regulator without cutting the wire's.

Stupid hurts.</p>

Tenn, so we clean everything well, remove connector, solder and shrink wrap wires and we should be ok, am I correct in my thinking??? Other than an occasional drip it should be safe by doing this????

Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>

That's the correct procedure. My bike's still in the shop, but so far the

problem seem's to be corrected. He went over "everything" and it all checked

out good.

Stupid hurts.</p>

Ok Guys.....

Let's think here, I have not done this yet, but I will and I hope that everyone who has oil in their wire loom will do this.



OK we know that most of us have the wiring set up in that the loom ends about 1/2in from the connector exposing the actual colored wire jackets (insulators) now what we need to do is check if this is the case at the stator. If the loom goes into the stator then there is a chance for oil to be forced up the loom (like a straw only blown not sucked) and it will spill out on the connector. BUT if the loom ends a 1/2in or so like it does at the plug then there is NO WAY the oil can getup into the loom.



Now this could explain why some of us have oil and others do not. I will check mine tomorrow and report what I find. If this is the case and the loom is indeed inside of the stator housing, then I would suggest we shorten the loom so it's outside the stator then seal the stator around the wire jackets. At the very least if it does start to leak again it won't travel up the loom and into the tail section.



BigJ12

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Well this is good post. We run a 01 zx12 in our race car. I read this post and went out to the garage and sure enough, OIL. I unplugged the small plug and alot of oil is present. The loom stops short of the plug, so cant see how it is coming through that. We dont do wheelies either, but do run alittle more oil than stock due to the RPM.s that we turn. I will stay tuned to see how this turns out.

Could it be some of that thick anti corrosive stuff they put in some plugs from the factory??? When it gets hot is is melting and running out??



Bryan

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/ufive015.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Five 0 15</A> at: 7/19/02 5:24:57 am

I think the oil id being pushed thru the wires inside. not the loom, but between the metal in the wires and the insulation. This would explain why some have discovered oil in the connector but not visibly present outside the connector.

just a thought?

Tainui</p>

Another thought. Just spoke to a friend about this and he said that some rectifiers and generators have a cooling oil sealed inside them. Could the oil be coming from the rectifier???



BH

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Hey all.....Just got back from vaca ...and while I was away ....I checked my plugs.......Wanna Talk about oil???,....Ok 1st off its definitely motor oil.......second I just recieved my parts cd from otis ...THANKS BRO!!!....and through looking at it it appears that there is a grommet from the stator to the loom.and an additional plug so this oil has traveled past one plug and up to the next ... .......IMHO it would be foolish to just remove the plug/connector ...yes your will no longer drip oil......but if anyone has noticed or read...there are 2 plugs ...and 2 sides of voltage/resisitance....The smaller plug/oil side...is the high side ....and if anyone has ever touched the rectifier after running the machine for a few minutes they would notice it gets quite warm......Heat anyone???? I have spoke to my dealer as well as three others and the general consensus is that I am retard.(no comments from the peanut gallery please.......I will be showing him this and will let everyone know the outcome....So far the best solution sounds like teh silicone idea........Brian...OH YEAH....NO Wheelies here...not a one!

"Be Nice to the Police Officer.......Ya Never Know When He Owns 12!!!!</p>

...sounds like you guys need to be doing more wheelies!!! :-D lol! :-D





BA

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I have just forwarding a link to this thread to one of the main people working for Canada Kawasaki, hopefully we can get some answers or at least notify someone that can identify what is going on. If anyone has an email for someone high up with U.S.A Kawasaki please forward it to me.





easyrider@zx-12r.org
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Ok guys, Jolt called me a bit ago and told me to check my connectors for this "oil" for he had alot in his. I pulled my seat off and checked the connectors for the oil and I did have a little bit, NOTHING like what is in the pics by mwrzx12 but enough to know it was motor oil. I could even smell the exhaust/gas mixture in it....(no mods to bike other than stock can mod and cat removal, plus K&N's) So after I noticed this I imediatley called the dealer, talked to a service guy that had never heard of this before, told me he WILL be looking into this and gave me a phone number to Kawasaki ( 949-460-5688 ) I did call Kawi. and talked to a customer tech about this and he was very cool about it all, I mentioned this website and he wanted the addy for this site. He said this post will be looked at, took my name and vin number from the bike . So guys this may take alot of phone calls but get em in so they can fix this problem !!!

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=av enger>Avenger</A> at: 7/19/02 2:54:16 pm

and the last digit to the phone # is????....I am going to my dealer on tues and he said he will replace the harness silicone up the grommet and have a kawi rep notified of the problem....Unfortunately looks like I might be without my steed for a while........Hmmmmm wonder if the zx-11 will feel half as good???....Brian

"Be Nice to the Police Officer.......Ya Never Know When He Owns 12!!!!</p>

I checked mine today and it's dry as a bone, I didn't take the connectors apart though, should I ? 2002 alittle over 2000MI, afew power wheelies in first gear nothing straight up.

</p>

Take them off ......Check it throughly ......Dont Cheat! Your only cheating yourself...Brian

"Be Nice to the Police Officer.......Ya Never Know When He Owns 12!!!!</p>

Thanks Brian! will do!

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d dubsred, you have to take your seat off and pull those connectors apart, it will take you less than 5 minutes to check



I had that feeling I get sometimes about things, when I saw that drop of oil from my rear cowl I had that feeling.......



and now my worse fear is being realized about this, which is most people did not even know it was happening, I am feeling better about it knowing that we together can make a difference, and get this problem fixed.....

Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>

Hey Mark, has the dealer said anything about this since its in the shop now? man with all this crap goin on your not lookin at busas are you?LOL! and yes I will be pullin the connectors,had the seat off today(still off) Thanks man without this site alot of us would be ridin blind!!!

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I did not bring it up yet, but I would bet just about anything they have not heard anything about it...........



busa's





Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>

Just checked my 02 PMB has 2000+ mile's dry. I checked it once as was reading the post and as I read more I checked it twice,



This is strange as hell. I doubt very much, That much oil can travel in between insulation and wire's. That would knock my sock's off, It would seem to have to travel on the extorior of wire. To plug. And That would be possible. Even if it travel's up. As it would have to.



G Force's would enable oil to be propelled along wire on hard acceleration. And With the foam being wet. That sound's very likely.



This would not effect drag racer's. because oil would drip to floor before next run, on/off on/off, It seem's to me it's the guy's here that put extended hour's in the seat. I doubt wheelie's is the cause or effect.



Extended hour's in seat would give oil the path and allow it time to get to connector before dripping back down to stator.



Just my opunion if I'm right, Kawi I would love a job as a Tech Rep.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

If Jessie Jame's had a ZX12R I'd ride with him.
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And to add a note on the fix guy's,



I would heat shrink wrap each wire seperate and then heat shrink the bundle together, If it were mine. And I'd do the same at stator. This would block it at it's exit to wire.

If Jessie Jame's had a ZX12R I'd ride with him.
</p>

I just checked mine and found no traces of oil on the wire, the plugs or on the foam or plastic.

Just lucky I guess.



For the record, I only run my oil to 1/2 level of the sight glass, I've had Synthetic since the 2000 mile mark and now have about 9200 miles.



I drag race every week, and do *a lot* of wheelies. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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I just got my seat off and I noticed oil around the connectors as well. How does one fix this? I would appreciate it. How does one let Kawasaki know about this. This is something they need to know.

</p>

GUYS............READ MY POST ON PAGE 4 AND CALL THAT PHONE NUMBER.....IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH GUYS CALLING IN ON THIS MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Checked my 02 with approx. 2600 miles on it and its dry...



Keeping an eye on it.



Boostable

"Life Goes Better with BOOST!!!"</p>

Zaino'd the bike this morning, so I took the tail off and checked the connectors. There is nothing in the large one, but the smaller one definitely has some type of light brown oil-smelling substance in it! Not enough that it's pooling in the connector or anything, but enough that even after wiping my finger through it a couple of times there is still plenty left.



I will call the number today and do my part towards getting this situation fixed.



Tim

</p>

Here's the number to Kawasaki again: ( 949-460-5688 )



Here's the list as I have it:



Phil (bikeland)

Xman99 (bikeland)



Here's our list:



mwrzx12

EPSTEIN

Mono12r (previously)

Major Konig ZX12R

TENN12

NameChanger - not visible but present in the connector

Five 0 15

Jolt

Avenger

OusiderZX12r

Tremor

Slvr12

Reddawg





If I have missed you let me know.



Here is the number to Kawasaki again ( 949-460-5688 )

If your name is on this list you should call this number.

Thanks to everyone who has posted. I still think there are more out there unfortunately.



Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/umwrzx12.showPublicProfile?language=EN>mwrzx12</A> at: 7/22/02 11:59:44 am

My wires were dry but connector full!



Slvr!

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Well I took a good look at the wiring harness today and mine has the harness going into the 90 degree elbow that in turn goes into the stator cover. Soooo I guess it is possible for oil to travel up the harness and spill out on to the small connector (the first one) and seep into the plug. Has anyone found oil in the second connector? I can't see how it could get into that one.



I am trying to figure out a good way to prevent this from happening to me. I think I am going to cut away the harness at the stator exposing the wires for about an inch. The wires are not touching anything at that point and I think electrical tape will be all that is needed. I will then try to seal the elbow. at least if it does leak it won't go up the harness (because of the harness section missing) and I will also be able to check on it anytime because nothing will need to be removed to inspect for oil.



So far I have no oil but we will see what I find once I cut the harness at the stator.



Will report findings.



BigJ12

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Maybe this will help...



www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=3066

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Can you cut and paste the relevant material, links to that site are useless if you are not a member, thanks.

easyrider@zx-12r.org
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</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/uherr6.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Her R6</A> at: 7/21/02 6:00:43 pm

I tried to sign up so I could see the link, and apparently I'm blocked.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> I wonder how many of us are blocked from Bikeland?

Stupid hurts.</p>

That is one reason why links to Bikeland are not very practical.

easyrider@zx-12r.org
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OK This is from a thread over at bikeland back on june 5th. Someone had a question about the oil leak on thier 12r tailsection. This was my reply.



------------------------------------------------------

This may sound crazy. But I had the same problem and I found it was positive crankcase pressure pushing oil up from the stator wires where the harness enters the cover.



I took the stator cover off and cleaned the rubber grommet where the wires go thru with brake clean. Then inject some RTV (Room Temp Vulcanizing) sealer and inject it into the harness from the inside.

Then CAREFULLY slit 1/8" the out side wire sleeve very close to the stator cover and inject some more RTV sealer.



This will stop the oil from being "pushed" up the wire harness and coming out of the connector.



---------------------------------------------------



I first started cleaning what I thought was chain oil from the tail section in the fall of 2000. I forgot about it untill it was literally dripping in the summer of 01.

Thats when I did the above quick fix to stop the oil leak.



Its been good ever sence. there is still some oil in the connector. I checked it about 6 weeks ago after another member said he still had the leak. I wanted to see if it was still dry. It was not noticeably leaking from the outside of the connector but when I took it apart it indeed had a very small amount of oil in the connector.

So I'd have to agree that its also being forced up the wire itself under the insulation.

But 99% was coming up the harness covering.



It could be from high speed runs when the airbox is pressurized and is fighting the crankcase pressure for a place to go. Or it could be "wicking". but I doubt that.



I didnt seal the wires where the insulation is stripped back in the stator cover. This would/should stop oil from going under the insulation.

But the best solution is to vent the crank case somewhere other than the airbox. They sell K&N breather filters for this.



Hope this helps.





oh, I dont think anyone is blocked from bikeland other than easyrider.

Dale, why dont you guys make a truce and let each other on both sites. ??? Seems like we are all adults here. I'm shure somthing can be worked out.

You are missing out on a lot of good info.

Hopefully you guys can work it out someday.



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Y2k: I am not going into the saga again. However I can say that some people are good to work with and others are not, association with certain people can compliment your reputation or destroy it. My ethics and goal for this site is different from that of Bikeland. I regret ever getting mixed up promoting Bikeland when it first started, that was a mistake, I should have known better.

As long as I have a good selection of information on this forum to organize and back up to ZX-12R.org then that is all I want. Bikeland information is useless if it can not be saved where people can use it later. If I find some good information there and back it up, some of the nicer moderators have been kind enough to threaten to sue. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> If you post information on this forum then I can back it up for others to use later. Anywhere else is off limits.



Lets get back on topic of trying to get this oil leak, connector issue worked out.

easyrider@zx-12r.org
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well guys you can add my name to the list of leakers....looked at it while tightening up the screws to the rear seat lock....going to V.I.R. next month and would hate for something to happen on my way up there...later..reddawg<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">

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Roy (slvr12) talked to Kawasaki today. They told him he should take it to his local dealer and inform them as to what is going on. The dealer will contact Kawasaki at that point.

I have my bike in the shop for the head gasket repair and I called them this afternoon about the leak, but he said they could not get through to Kawasaki.

When asked about Kawasaki issueing a recall, they said they only do that if it is a safety related matter. I believe Roy asked them if motor oil in an electrical connection was a safet matter!!!!!!!! I do not think oil and your voltage regulator were meant to be as one!

For now, contact your dealer and report the problem. Have them call Kawasaki. It should be a free repair.



Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>

Well for one , you can add me to the list of leakers, dry on the outside but full on the inside (connector). I went to my dealer on Sat. talked to the service manager, what he told me is this problem with oil backing up through the wires has been around for a very long time , not only with Kawasaki but with Hondas and maybe a few others. The heat from the regulator will draw the oil through the wires, the older bikes had this problem in the past because the regulator was mounted low and close to the engine, I guess the factorys figure if they only have to replace a few then they don't need a recall, this is why the regulator is mounted way in the back and up high , so that maybe the oil can't travel up(wrong) as we know it's there. If the dealer won't fix this the only way I see it is to take it apart yourself and silicone the wires from the engine, and or splice wires down low and silicone that, just end the flow of oil at that point.This is my 02, What do you think?

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I think it is a great idea....My baby will be at the dealer tomm....I'll keep you guys posted ....being the wires to my rectifier are also dried out and cracked and discolored.....I too called the # and spoke to a Kawi rep..(Nathan the tool)...and I will say this I was extremely dissatisfied....the rep played dumb then had the gall to insult me and pretty much tell me I didnt know what I was talking about......(no comments from the peanut gallery please)......after speakin with him he informed me that kawi has no record of my extended warr...and that I need to speak with my dealer and produce said documantation.......Ya know 1st I had problems with the Zx 11 and was extremely disssatisfied.(#3 con rod and 2nd 5th gear prob)...lucky my buddy owns a speed shop......and now this Bulls*@t with the 12 .........Whats next on my horizon a Suzuki??a Yammy??? Come on Kawi step up to the Plate!!!!!!!! A very disgruntled ................Brian <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:">

"Be Nice to the Police Officer.......Ya Never Know When He Owns 12!!!!</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=ep stein>EPSTEIN</A> at: 7/22/02 2:55:28 pm

Personally I think Kawi. should be responsible for stopping the oil, not us.

Also, is the oil on the wire's our only problem? Not mine. My connector is

totally melted and all my wire's are burnt badly. You can smell them when

you open the trunk.





Stupid hurts.</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/utenn12.showPublicProfile?language=EN>TENN12</A>* at: 7/22/02 6:30:49 pm

That would be a responsible thing for Kawasaki to do and I think they will if your bike is still under Warranty, the trouble I see, is there is no silicone down low to prevent this in the first place, so if and when you replace ask for silicone before its installed.

</p>

The list keeps growing



Here's the number to Kawasaki again: ( 949-460-5688 )



Here's the list as I have it:



Phil (bikeland)

Xman99 (bikeland)



Here's our list:



mwrzx12

EPSTEIN

Mono12r (previously)

Major Konig ZX12R

TENN12

NameChanger - not visible but present in the connector

Five 0 15

Jolt

Avenger

OusiderZX12r

Tremor

Slvr12

Reddawg

d dubsred 12r





If I have missed you let me know.



Here is the number to Kawasaki again ( 949-460-5688 )

If your name is on this list you should call this number.

Thanks to everyone who has posted. I still think there are more out there unfortunately.



Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/umwrzx12.showPublicProfile?language=EN>mwrzx12</A> at: 7/22/02 5:04:38 pm

I sent an e-mail to Kawasaki from their site.

Here is their response:



<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Mark-



We would like to thank you for the recent contact to Kawasaki. If you are experiencing difficulty with your motorcycle we suggest you take it to your local Kawasaki dealership for an inspection. They can contact our

technical support staff if they require advice in properly diagnosing your situation.



Thank you.<hr></blockquote>







Mark-PMB-2002 ZX12R </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/umwrzx12.showPublicProfile?language=EN>mwrzx12</A> at: 7/22/02 5:11:33 pm

That response is pretty F@#!$$ lame!!!

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Thats why I WILL NOT purchase an extended Warranty, you have a BRAND NEW bike and they give some short answer like that!!!

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I don't know of a GOOD dealer in Kansas to take my 12R to for this. Any suggestions?

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I filled out the form on this link, I think this is a very serious safety issue and that's no bull.



www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/ivoq/default.htm



(ODI Number: 764625)



In the meantime, going to stop out at the Dealer's here in Lynnwood and see what their service department has to say. Let you guys know how it goes.



I talked to a customer service rep at the number that MW left. He told me best

thing to do is take it to your dealer.



What is SUPPOSED to happen is after the inspection, they'll contact "corporate technicians" at Kawi, (heehee). What they'll do is make the decision to cover the issue under warranty.



So I'll let you guys know how it goes at the shop today! (Hopefully they'll look past all the warranty violating MODS I have installed....heehee.)

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=ma jorkonigzx12r>Major Konig ZX12R </A>* at: 7/23/02 9:05:07 am

My bike was under warranty at the time of my electrical/oil problem and they covered it with no hasels. They told my dealer what was wrong and where to silicon the wires.

They might not admit it but I would bet they are aware of the problem already.

Living life on two wheels
and living wild
on one</p>

Just dropped off the scooter at the dealer service dept.



They told me they'll R&I it today, give me a call later.



Let you know how it goes. I don't think enough people realize how *ugly* this problem can get, but it seems like the service department had a "nervous" but prompt sense of urgency on dealing with it.

<a href="http://zx-12r.servebeer.com/" target="_blank">

</a> </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=ma jorkonigzx12r>Major Konig ZX12R </A>* at: 7/23/02 1:08:08 pm

Dropped mine off today as well........the dealer acknowledge the problem with the rectifier.....(being my wires were cooked discolored and cracked) he was truly amazed at the oil issue....and even doubted me ....but when I removed my tail section and he observed the oil drippings on the inside of the tail ....and the subframe....He was amazed...at first he doubted the prescence of oil in the connector but then the visualization sold him..He will call Kawasaki in the morning.speak to a Tool ...I mean Tech....and ....he agreed to blue label my parts and hopefully Sat I will have my machine...As I left I took one sad look back and said "goodbye".......Brian<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">

"Be Nice to the Police Officer.......Ya Never Know When He Owns 12!!!!</p>

I'd bet about $50 that doing the CrankCase mod would stop this problem dead in it's tracks. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> keeping those connectors bone dry.



"Green Mamba" - Feeds mostly on Birds, almost flourescent green in color, can strike violently with extrodinary speed.
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