All,
Does anyone have true frame sliders for ZX12R on their bike (pictures)? Not looking to cut out anything but if I have to I think I will. I have one that is not a true frame slider and so far so good, when I tipped my bike over one day, it worked, but I know it will not work as true frame slider should.

I have seen frame sliders for other bikes, very solid and I don't know why they don't make one for our ZX12R without cutting the sides. My brother has one on his ZX14 and that is one solid frame slider...

I have been looking for the same since I got my bike back in May... No luck. I have the same ones I see in your picture (through the faring bolt location). I even went so far as to start looking into a crash cage. No luck there either. It seems that anything would be custom.

too bad the sliders are tougher than the mounting site. The sliders on the 14 use the same bolt that hold the top of the motor to the frame. I'd rather replace plastics than try to figure out how to fix an engine mount. Members have snapped those engine mounts on their 14. There's a lot of weight on those two frameslider bolts. Sold my sliders for the 14.

Never installed sliders on the 12 because I saw firsthand what happens when they fold backwards and start tearing the hell out of stuff. They will work fine at zero mph, but the risk was just not worth it on either bike.

I made my own crash bung which also doubles as a great mouting point for my homemade stand.


When the bikes not on the stand I screw on some Aluminium bobbins onto the thread which is M16 stainless running right through the swinging arm, cannot see this bending much :).

Yea, I think traditional sliders like we're all used to are no go with the funky overhead motor mounts. I use the ST-Moto sliders from Motorcycle Accessories & Aftermarket European Parts. I had one hell of a tankslapper on I-65 north, and considering how bad of a get off it was, they did a damm good job. I'll see if I can post some pics here soon. I think you can see them in my avitar thing to the left.

Sil
Indy12RR

My bike before the crash....


My bike after, pretty good condidering I was damm near doing 100mph.



These are definitely solid, mounting through the frame, and the slider is about 2in across and about 10in long. I think they are more for protecting your motor and cases, but its about all you can do with a ZX12. And I'd rather replace plastics than and engine anyday. The ones that mount through the fairing bolt hole are garbage, cuz if you really go down, its gonna shatter your plastics, and you'll still end up busting your case open.

Sil
Indy12RR

Wow, I guess I am not the only one, I was lucky to have my slider when I tip it over, if not probably damaged something expensive. Where do you get your sliders, the only thing I see that will be a problem is so close to our feet.

I will check with one of the fabrication shop in my area to see if they can come up with something decent looking plus strong enough for what sliders should do.

I see you got it from http://www.whaccessories.com/GSGProtectorZX12R.jpg and its $220.....wow, I think I can get something close to that from local Fabrication shop for that price....I will definitely check on that and see. That's insane price for sliders

I bought my GSG Moto Sliders from Wild Hair Accessories they were worth every penny i slipped moving my bike in the driveway and the only damage i got was a slight scape on the slider bumper and a small scratch on my barend mirror no other damage they took about a month to import but the customer service was AAA+++++

I've got the R&G sliders they replace one of the motor mounts which makes them a solid mount. http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/...All_Years.aspx

I have a set of R&G sliders that I will sell for $75.00 plus s&h. They are in perfect condition, but I just couldn't get used to them on the bike. Contact me if you are interested.

Are they for ZX12R and they are frame sliders, correct? I sent you PM.

Thanks!

Are you talking about this one? Kawasaki ZX12R Crash Protectors CP0155BL, CP0155WH

If you could send me some pictures of it...thanks!

dropped mines on wet grass & the bolt on the right side bent the slider & cracked the fairing, no other damage but the slider is worthless for any speed i was pushing mines

These bikes weight quite a bit so just imagine the weight + gravity + speed = damage of some sort.....that is why what I have now works well for tipping over but for some major sliding I will have to take it to a fabrication shop to come up with something strong like a cage, specially for the kind of money these companies are asking for these frame sliders for our ZX12R's....insane

R&G have distributors here. I just looked up their US dealer list and ordered from

(1) EMI Group
7071 Commerce Circle Suite C
Pleasanton
California
CA 94589
Tel: 001 925 460 3811

$134 shipped (if you live outside of CA it's $124 without tax).

R&G have distributors here. I just looked up their US dealer list and ordered from

(1) EMI Group
7071 Commerce Circle Suite C
Pleasanton
California
CA 94589
Tel: 001 925 460 3811

$134 shipped (if you live outside of CA it's $124).

I like GSG motor sliders, they look more stronger than R&G sliders, but I still want to check with my local Fabrication shop to see what will be the cost to come up with something that will look decent and strong enough to take the hit.

Thanks for the info guys!

Ouch Indy, when did that happen?

Just sent a PM.

Indy12RR

uffigang
(woppi)
:D

Thanks uffigang, now I know how its made....though it looks strong (the base is definitely strong), the slider is still hold on by a single bolt so not as strong as it should. I will check with my local fabrication shop to see if he can come up with something a lot stronger for a frame slider or decent looking cage.

This is the same setup as the R&G Racing sliders (the only ones that work btw... imho) They wont save the fairing lower, but they WILL save the engine side covers : so you can *hopefully* ride home.

Good work.

I'm going to get a set like the above, and also the R&G sliders for the bottom of the front forks, but haven't yet.

Anyone who has the bobbins on the upper fairing mount should take them off. All they will do is bend back and splinter the upper fairing...

I have been thinking about the upper slider spport bracket for a long time. I wonder if they were made of something substatial ....Like chromoly (4130) if the bolt boss area would be strong enough to hold the support bracket...what are you thoughts
Sorry if this seems like a thread jack....not intended to be

I have had the aluminium bobbins powder coated black which look great now, only downside is 1. weight of the stainless all thread which runs right through the bike & 2. It can make getting the stand up a bit tricky @ times as the bobbins stop you reaching it, also be carefully when trying to get your foot of the rests quickly as they can catch...wouldn't want to drop and test the system out. I will post some piccies when I can showing how they look.
I guess making something which works is always going to be hard without gaining some weight along the line, but these bikes have more power than I will ever use so no problem for slow me.

The R&G sliders mount higher than Mausers ( they replace the motor mount bolt instead of going through the swing arm pivot ) but can still snag a pant leg or bruise a shin. Like everything else in life, it's a trade off but they would definitely protect the engine cases in a minor or major get off.

Going by the pictures that Indy posted, it looks to me like his stator cover was ground though, notwithstanding the R&G slider. Looks as though the footpeg was lost too. Makes me kinda wonder if there are ANY slider options out there that will really provide meaningful (and thus cost justified) protection. I sure haven't seen anything that'll help protect the pretty parts. I'd sure like to find that there is a good option.

In the meantime, my wreck contingency consists of a nice pair of used OEM lower fairings I bought a while back. :~|

Mine didn't cost a lot but I have every faith they will save the bikes lower section and more importantly my leg if she goes over, stainless all thread was £6 ~ 600mm length, then must admit friend turned me the bobbins but you can get some decent alloy round bar on fleabay for about £6 again, the spacer tube is stainless again but only costs a little as you only need 2 pieces 100mm long. Would take a heavy impact to bend 16mm all thread, even if it does it has done it's job and absorbed some of the impact.
Needs a decent supplier to look into making a stronger product as there seems a demand for good kit, I like the mounting plate for the one posted above but the small pin wants beefing up.

Indys bike was not fitted with R&G sliders. R&Gs sit a little higher, wider and more foreward. Whether or not they would have protected better I don't know, but I'm not willing to throw my bike down the road in order to find out!

Ooops! I meant to say GSG Moto sliders. Yer right though, not too many volunteers to "test" any of them out.

Indy12RR here. Yea if you look at the pics from up there, my case did get ground down... BUT.... My get off was MAJOR... not like just dropping your bike. I was doing close to 100 and got tossed. My bike was about a !/4 mile from where I was, and from what my friends said it just slid on that one side after a flip or 2. So for sliding that far, and taking that much of an impact, the case only dripped a little. I took that pic right when I was putting some more oil in to see if she started up. On top of that, the slider had been ground down by about 2 inches when compaired to the good side. Had it not been ground down that far, the case would most likely have survived

Good note, my bike started right up, with only a small drip. And I only had lost about a quart, cuz after I added the first quart the oil was in the sight glass. I have been riding my bike since then, and out side of the fact that she looks like crap.... I havent had any engine damage realated issues.

From personal experience, GSG MOTO sliders work

Peace
Sil
a.k.a. Indy12RR

Like this:



This was at 30mph on a tarmac road after some moron in a large white van pulled out in front of me.

Ouch....that is what I was afraid of.....these sliders are only good for tipping over, should not even call them sliders......

Wow, GSG sliders went through that much abuse on indy12rr and survived I am sold on that.....though it doesn't look strong but because its closer to the frame it took that abuse.....great info!

This Post by shiggsy ---> :( Frame Slider Crash Report <----convinced me back in march to order a set of GSG MOTO sliders
guess a picture is worth a 1000 words you can tell someone something and it dosnt sink in

The ones in my pic were on when I bought her, and I never considered changing them - Expensive lesson well learned

sometimes there is a new gsg set at the german ebay 4sell !!

can take a look for you ??

if you want ??

uffigang
(woppi)

That will be nice of you.....please keep an eye out on one for me

Thanks!

I bought my GSG Moto Sliders from Wild Hair Accessories they took about a month to import but the customer service was AAA+++++

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Where is Wild Hair located at? Area code is 623, I looked it up and it shows in Arizona....????? "Updated!" I found out its is in Glendale, AZ and they are also known as Street Fighters Inc

I wonder if Dino can come up with something like this since Pillion seat hinge came out so good.....?????

I checked with Wild hair/StreetFighter and it will take 4-6 weeks to get my GSG Frame slider order.....that's crazy to me.

I will check with my local Fabrication shops and a friend of mine that retied that has all kinds of machine that may do something like this...he is the one that did my signal lights and license plate frame.

???

if you want ?? i can buy you a set of gsg fram sliders from germany and ship them to you ??

could need max. 3 weeks ??

uffigang
(woppi)

Thanks uffigang for your offer.....I will check with my local folks on this before reaching out that far. I am sure someone can come up with something close to that since no patent has been made here in the U.S.

okidoki !!!

tell me if i can help you ?

uffigang
(woppi)

I sure will, you are a good person!

no problem !!

uffigang
(woppi)

Can someone please help me with some measurements on GSG Motor frame sliders......I have a friend that has a machine shop that thinking about making me one if I can get him all the measurements that he needs.

This is what I will need to start and I will post what else he will need later:

Thickness of the base plates, distance between two mounting holds, diameter of the stud bolts and pictures of each measurements....width, height, length...

I truly appreciate this!.......

No one

just order are pair when they come i will measure them for u. i got the frame slider, fork slider & swingarm slider all for 240$ shipped to me.

Thanks bmorezx12r......I can sure use the measurements.....if you don't mind me asking what did you pay for GSG Frame sliders....that is the one you ordered, correct?

Thanks again!

i paid 210$. i been after them for a while but he finally setup his paypal acct. i dont do the money order thing.

bldragon here you go. im no great measurer but i did the best i could i hope i cover all parts for you.


full assembled its 15ins from end to end
each metal pole is 14 10/16ins long


base is 6 1/2ins long
thickness on side is 1/2in without that xtra piece on the end which goes inside the hole.
thickness is 1in with that piece added on.






i also have the sliders for the forks & swingarm if you want there measurements let me no & i can get them b4 i put them on. i put the frame slider on & it took 15mins to figure out where everything goes. instruction was in german & wasnt much help. but over all once you take your time & look @ each piece its pretty simply to put together. the base has a r & l on the base so that helps the most. it took 5 mins to put on. hope this helps.

bmorezx12r, thanks for the info above.....some reason I did not see this until now.....appreciate you going through the time to get me the info....now I just have to get together with my friend so he can tell me if he can actually make one for me.

Thanks!

no prblm. hope it helps

I know this is off topic, but....DUDE!!! Love the exhaust!!! Who? Where? How much? Does yer foot gets a lil werm????

x2 on the exhaust, Yes Please what is the story on that exhaust??

That exhaust was a standard ebay issued chrome tip. I have a full muzzy system, so I removed the can and mid pipe, and slid the tip on in its place. It worked pretty good for the most part, saved some weight, and sounds GREAT... But that was BEFORE my highside on I-65 north. The exhaust didnt make it... so I did just like any good biker does..

If you gotta fix it, make it better...
So this year, I got in touch with Calvin from Competition Werkes. They make some mean looking GP style exhaust. After talking with him, I gave him my pipe specs and some other dementions (sp) and he custom welded a version of the ZX10 race exhaust for me. His email is contact@competitionwerkes.com. Here are some pics of what I got. After some checking, it was just a hair (like barely) too close to the swingarm... But overall it fit. I got a piece of 2 1/4 pipe extension, welded it to the end of the can... And PRESTO.. GP style exhaust with performance to boot.. No longer just a tail pipe clamped to the headers...









Give me a shout if you need anymore info.

Peace
Indy12RR

The GP style is ok. But I think I'm going to look on ebay for a chrome tip. Kinda sucks cuz I just got a carbon fiber exhaust can from a fellow member. Decisions decisions. Did your feet get warmer at all?

Sweet jesus that thing has gotta be loud (!!!) Indy.

fyi R&G also makes "exhaust protector" for pipes.

You have to get the right size/shape to fit your can, but their only like $65... much cheaper than a new exhaust. (even a slip on is twice that)

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