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post #1 of 15 Old 06-03-2016, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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Gen 1 10r

Hi all.
Still at it. Was doing a little more searching and it took a left turn as far as threads went.
There is another '05 10 for sale in my area, forget miles right now. Decent , in pics, decent money.
I'm past the overall opinion stage. Now I am hoping to hear from some guys or gals, that are AT or OVER 200bhp and streetable. As in close to DD like. and specifically what it took to get there
I'd rather stick w/ a Kawi. But the s1Krr is screaming my name.
Unfortunately none of the newer ones floated my boat aesthetically. Maybe an '06/7 w/low pipe. But trying to gauge what it will take monetarily to match one w/ exhaust & mapping. I can handle the rest. My 12 gives em hell but the weight is clearly in the way.
Basically doing the math to see if after acquisition what amount it comes to
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Just going ahead and snagging one. I personally do not want to be tied to a stealer for service. As I'm all DIY except tires & inspections.

All thoughts and impressions welcomed
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post #2 of 15 Old 06-04-2016, 10:10 AM
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If you want to go fast in a straight line, sell your 12r, put that together with your intended 10R money, and buy a 14R.
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Hey wait a minute, the 14r does great in corners too. It might not be as light as a liter bike but it sure is planted everywhere. I have no problems hanging and even beat some liter bikes in the corners.

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Hey wait a minute, the 14r does great in corners too. It might not be as light as a liter bike but it sure is planted everywhere. I have no problems hanging and even beat some liter bikes in the corners.

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Yea but Lou you do ride better than most.. I seen a video just yesterday where a guy on a pedal bike was smoking two squids on liter bikes for God's sake.. And how many times did we see tons of shit talk about how blazing fast some of these guys were only to have them show at the Gap Rally and not be able to keep pace with the pack much less the fast group out front? Just because someone is on a liter bike don't mean they can ride, in fact more times than not they can't in my experience.
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Yea but Lou you do ride better than most.. I seen a video just yesterday where a guy on a pedal bike was smoking two squids on liter bikes for God's sake.. And how many times did we see tons of shit talk about how blazing fast some of these guys were only to have them show at the Gap Rally and not be able to keep pace with the pack much less the fast group out front? Just because someone is on a liter bike don't mean they can ride, in fact more times than not they can't in my experience.
You speak the truth, I just don't want to hear that these big bikes are good for only straight riding. Next weekend is our Laconia bike week ride. I go with quite a few liter bikes and they seem to always have excuses for why I'm in the top 2.

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Keep the 12r. Buy a s1krr.

The difference in weight is notable. But the immediate benefits of brakes that are like dropping an anchor.

and starting at 200bhp is worth every penny.

My 12r can and will beat them in a straight line. When I finally reassemble it. But the truth is I been riding around a s1kr even with only 160 bhp u can just see so damn much potential.

The handling is just telepathic out the box.

Still, it all comes down to rider. And , i still prefer getting it right on the 12 because you know it was u not the computers making the bike go fast as hell.
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How much do you want to spend? 200 rwhp out of a gen1 is about 40 more than stock. The easy way is a 40 shot. The hard way is new pistons and head work and cams. I've only seen one done this way and it was a monster. It would just drive away from a s1000rr. I'm sure there are more out there but I have only see this one. I would love to do a gen1 but I too damn big. As far a being street bike that's up to you with what you can live with. I wish more people built the gen1 zx10s I love them things. Redsled. P.S. First thing it needs is a damper.
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Gen 1 10r

Finally!.
Ummm... NO! I do not want to go fast in a straight line. Almost despise it. NO OFFENSE TO STRAIGHT LINERS!!! Spraying is a engine killer. and I have no one buying me go fast parts.
I understand about the wanna be's. Ill say this. On my Sun morn ride there are two fellas in front of me with " PROFESSIONAL LICENCES " MAX WRIST has ridden with us a few times. So my strengths and weaknesses are revealed weekly. Ill leave it at that.
Will admit. I am on somewhat of a whim. I LOVE the 12. No IF, ANDs or BUT's. More than enuff for the street. BRE V stacks helped me keep from putting a sign on it. Really.
Oddly, the OTHER guys I ride w/ have BUSA's , 14's etc.
I am now on kinda a budget. And am trying desperately not to give up the 12. Gotten spoiled over the years w/ multiple bikes. I had a number in mind to NOT cross. And if it is in the window ill pull the trigger on the 12. Poss 1287 & head work poss cam(s) over the winter. If not sell and take the diff & get a 1krr. Maybe I have not had it long enough, 11 months. Or I'm being paranoid due to some abrupt life changes. But another reason to keep as it was/is such a GREAT street bike. I'll also do away with the R1. That's part of the pot in either direction. Another part is my ego. Not to mention I can no longer hit the track so I am trying to compensate. Realistically it's only an issue in the tight stuff. Plus the R1 can't REASONABLY be wrung out any more. So I am hoping to get as much bang for the buck as I can. Fingers are crossed to make a purchase and take my chances. Was hoping that they, 10's, were capable of some EASY & INEXPENSIVE HP. If there is such a thing. Similar to ours.
Basically coming down to the possibility of me only having ONE bike.
Trying to make the right choice
BELIEVE ME! I am trying to keep the 12

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I hear what you saying about having more than one bike. If you like the twisties then the 10r is the bike to build. I don't know much about what can be done to make them faster as far as exhaust, stacks and so on. But they were so fast and mean right from the get go with out any tc or wheelie control or abs or anything really. A built 12 is a built 12. As you know they like to go fast in a strait line but some people can make em turn. Not me that shit just makes a slow man slower. CMG has one set up for track days so it can be done. The s1000r will do all of it. Ive been on a hp4. All I can say about that bike is the hype is for real. Its made for some one with way more skills than me. If your selling other bikes to build the 10r I think you will have the bike you want. I hope you do it. Redsled.
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This really is a personal choice issue, only you can decide what to do...

But, my 10c worth....

I went through similar dilemmas re getting a newer bike or keeping the 12. In the end I went for the 1287 route. For ME it was the right choice as the 12 has always fitted me on the road or occasional track day. I am not a high speed track rider, as like you I have ridden with many very good riders on all sorts of bikes and know where I am in the pecking order!

But I am very happy with the setup I have. I've pretty well got over the need to be better than others on the road, and having said that the 12 still holds its head high when needed. Skill is often what gets you there anyway, not the bike, in my experience (and I'm not near the front in most cases).

I think a gen1 zx10r would make a great track or twisties bike though!
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I hear what you saying about having more than one bike. If you like the twisties then the 10r is the bike to build. I don't know much about what can be done to make them faster as far as exhaust, stacks and so on. But they were so fast and mean right from the get go with out any tc or wheelie control or abs or anything really. A built 12 is a built 12. As you know they like to go fast in a strait line but some people can make em turn. Not me that shit just makes a slow man slower. CMG has one set up for track days so it can be done. The s1000r will do all of it. Ive been on a hp4. All I can say about that bike is the hype is for real. Its made for some one with way more skills than me. If your selling other bikes to build the 10r I think you will have the bike you want. I hope you do it. Redsled.
Damn!!! That was inspiring as hell. So far one is sold & the other ragged out. Not to mention he is asking top dollar for a " salvage " machine
May have to contact Henry for some additional tips regarding that. The ones he's offered so far are spot on!
The search continues

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Greetings all!

" The s1000r will do all of it. Ive been on a hp4. All I can say about that bike is the hype is for real "

Failed to mention that one of the two guys w/ pro licences is piloting an HP4 and has his original '10 s1krr as a track whore!

I digress!

ENJOY ALL!
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You speak the truth, I just don't want to hear that these big bikes are good for only straight riding. Next weekend is our Laconia bike week ride. I go with quite a few liter bikes and they seem to always have excuses for why I'm in the top 2.

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Lou there is only one reason you are always out front with me, Both Rockets, GreenMamba, just to name a few and there's more that I mean no disrespect by not naming... That reason is like all those I listed you started out at a young age and worked your way to the front of the pack. You understand your abilities and your equipment's abilities equally well and know how to use them together to extract the maximum effect. Compare that to those guys that slam their shit to the ground and stretch it out because they are clueless how to go rally fast around a corner but think because they can pin the throttle in a straight line they are on equal ground with good riders like the list above.. It's laughable on a good day.. I have always had great respect for your abilities Lou regardless what you were riding..
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I don't know what all needs done to get to a true 200 at the wheel on a first Gen.
My 04 with 11K miles, full exhaust, servo delete and a true PCM tune did 152 on a hot Houston day.
They are light tho...

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I don't know what all needs done to get to a true 200 at the wheel on a first Gen.
My 04 with 11K miles, full exhaust, servo delete and a true PCM tune did 152 on a hot Houston day.
They are light tho...
That sounds about right and I'm sure an S1k would make about 180 on that same dyno/day/conditions.
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