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Question dumping the clutch vs dragging the clutch

I been trying different launch styles an i really like dropping the clutch around 3800 ...But i wanted to know if draggin the clutch out at higher rpms causes burnt clutches does dumpin the clutch have a bad affect also

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Well you got to get it engaged :) .. Try doing both ...get it out then ...get a little back ...
It's going to be a process of refinement....
That's poorly worded...I'm just not sure how to explain it.
But if it were easy, guys wouldn't spend the money on lockups or sliders...

I reserve the right to be wrong....

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Well you got to get it engaged :) .. Try doing both ...get it out then ...get a little back ...
It's going to be a process of refinement....
That's poorly worded...I'm just not sure how to explain it.
But if it were easy, guys wouldn't spend the money on lockups or sliders...
damn right lol, I love running a multi.

you want to snap it part way out, then slide it the rest of the way. snapping it all the way out will bog the bike and be slow. sliding it too much will also be slow and fry packs. hard to find that balance point, but focus more on getting WOT sooner. theres good youtube vids of onboard cameras that show guys doing it well

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Well you got to get it engaged :) .. Try doing both ...get it out then ...get a little back ...
It's going to be a process of refinement....
That's poorly worded...I'm just not sure how to explain it.
But if it were easy, guys wouldn't spend the money on lockups or sliders...
Your right ...I have the hang of it alittle bit from when i use to feather the clutch on mycrf450

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Take it for what it's worth...

I was introduced to some road racer kid (15yrs old) and the first thing I said was, 'What are you having trouble with?' The old man and kid both chimed in the same time said, "Starts."

I said what are your moves? Kid said he winds it up to 14,000rpm and takes off. I said, that is one way, here are two more ways to try.

If you rev piss out of it, you know you are going nowhere because you are past the torque range, right?

So the one move is to keep it at idle and when the flag drops, you take off.
The last move is 'blip feeding.' You are cooking plates on the feed out. The less [rpm] spin, the less friction upon release. 14K will kill it, idle won't, but blipping burns less. You are stuck in the middle finding that bog release someway, somehow?

Blip means, you are just revving it and whatever rpm you bang into, you better feed it from there, right? I'm showing him the one move has two problems. You are down to two choices, and I'm not about to tell you how to feed the clutch in.

I never brought up the feeding out part. Feed is an art. The art is not to bog. I more or less used my arm against my body; I said, here are the clutch plates, and I want to be this far away from them. I could have probably stuck a pinky in between that distance, as if to represent a few business cards stacked there between plates.

I don't want to hold the clutch in and feed out either. I want to sit here, away from loading plate after plate. I want to feel that break apart right there, then pull away from it a touch more, then hang there. If I rev, I'm broken apart and no one is touching each other, as if I had the lever pulled all the way in = Least Wear revving there next to a plate:

A. At 14,000 RPM? No. I'm into clutch preservation like my compression cans sticking out. I'll toast the inner plates and turn them to charcoal bits that land on the bottom of the sump pan. They cook in tiny bits enough to pass the sump screen, if you suck on a chunk, or say the pump is partially covered with the debris now?

B. At Idle? If I can hear my engine, yes.

C. At "The Blip?" If I can't hear my engine, and all things being the art of the fart getting that lever out, then, yes. I'd B and C it and find out how comfortable I am with either?

Every time practice or his race was called, I'd pat him on the back and say, 'Practice your starts!" I never asked which one he chose? He began to have better starts as the day wore on is my guess? Made a holeshot on the field, twice. Took a 1st in one of his races. I forget the others, but he was 4th O/A in the big race, running with the 1000cc's. His last race I heard was; 4 entries >>> 1st - 1st - 2nd - 2nd.

I need a Kawi under him, gather a team [is all ready to go]. All we need is money, honey and have the sit on the podium.

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any muppet can ride hard off the line ...
Lol man where do u find these comebacks

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