Did you make room for my decal on your bike yet?
Todd

Funny guy...wait till I put my bike on the scales in a few minutes....

No crying when I out ET you by 2/10 and out MPH you off spray by FIVE!

:twisted:

A.

Did you get that weight yet? Don't forget to add in the weight of my sticker for the next race.

With you having 30-35 horsepower more then me, 40-50 pounds less then me and more drag experience then me I'll try to hold my tears.... the question is, if you loose will you be able to contain yours(or do you have your excuses already written down)? :roll:
I've been in bar fights with the odds more against me and walked away with no more blood loss then the next guy.... odds don't bother me when
I know what they are. :wink:

You want to meet up or just meet over there.. I think you go the north bound route and we go southbound and around via 301.
Don't forget that PS2 if thats cool fo rme to use at the shop.
Todd

PS: What's your boss going to say having to look at a v-twin shop's sticker on your bike there everyday btw? :twisted:

almost spit my food out laughing on that one !!!

Todd...you are too heavy and don't have enough HP. The new liters are pretty competitive...but come one....a chromey 1st gen gixxer 1000? 3rd gear is where I'll pass you at worst....EVERY TIME. You know how this beast pulls.

I own the 2nd 1/2...no question about that...but can you handle the pressure off the line? Can you launch that 63" GSX-R 1000 and run UNDER 1.69 60 ft? :roll: You know you have to go DEEP in the 1.5s and perfect that tuck on the big end....1.5s is there for you to take whenever you want...but from the looks of things I may get there 1st w/a stock arm! :shock:

Keep in mind, on all the runs I made that didn't involve some sideways action off the line or a big wheelie, my WORST run was about what your BEST run was!

38 hours and I'll be draggin you down the big end like....well....like I do to other liters....those little 1000cc lungs just don't have what the 12 has .... POWER. I've already decided not to spray for the whole day! I'll have the bottle up front to keep the weight down, unhooked of course :wink: .

A Harley Shop sticker on my bike if i lose :shock:

Don't get mad when I do the roll on/off and look over at you, crouched down...all serious....lol. Sigh...the little engine that can't....and WON'T.

A.

These are exactly the things I expected to hear from you beforehand! Is this where I'm supposed to pull a Supra move and say I can't make it? - Sorry, wrong guy. With that much talk, maybe your confident enough to make it heads up runs only now? I only said best timeslip of the day for your benefit, and of course will stick to that if you still feel you need it?


You may want to rethink that in case it doesn't work out the way you plan?


Damn, that would be worse then being beat by a little liter(engine that couldn't) Suzuki huh?
Shiphteey riding his bike for the next year---> :oops:
Todd

Quiet confidence.

WTF? I thought you guys were running heads up???

Actually Shane, we agreed on using our best time slips of the day(ET's for the 1/8 and for the 1/4) so we didn't have to fight to get a lane with each other each time. But since the only way that's really fair(as in heads-up terms) is to add in reaction time at the end and throw out any redlight passes.... that's what we agreed on.

There's a bit of math for each ticket(which could reduce the time it takes to get my free dinner now that I think of it) and it also gives Ali the chance to disregard all his screw-ups he has(kinda like giving him a handicap for his deficiencies).

At any rate, he's talking so big now as we are getting closer(yeah, like I'm not :roll: ) that I figure he might feel more of an overall accomplishment when he "drags me down the track like all the other liter bikes" if it were an actual heads-up lane-to-lane(single, best of the day, 3 out of 5, etc.) race?

Whaddya think Ali... how ya want whoop on me?

If we don't agree on anything we come up with from this point, we'll go with the original plan,,,, but seeing as you always get the short end of the stick with the street races you get into, I figure the least I can do is give you the chance to set the terms of this race.

I know you're busy with all the sprocket changing, map tweaking, hole drilling, parts removing, belemic purging of things you're doing right now... and it might be tough to answer this - but I just want to let you know I'm game to take my ass whoopin almost any way you want to give it at this point.
Todd

IMO, if it is not heads-up, it is not a real race...

Everyone can spare me the sad stories of their sore vagina....

Once again, I think I smell pussy (but from whom?)....

It's my b-day, so it's probably me.
Todd

Just got off the phone w/Todd

Really don't matter to me, as long as the rules are fair and agreed upon prior to our 1st run. My opinion is I'll win, regardless 8)

I think runs should count, regardless of whether or not we line up. What if he's in the B-room and I bust out my best run...I think it should count, just like I'd honor his best run even if it wasn't "against" me at that point.

That being said, we'll probably end up running heads up every single run....at least I'm not duckin ANY chance to run him, that is FOR SURE!

"The beatings will continue until morale improves!" :twisted:

A.

Wow, what an odd opinion for you! :roll:

Leaving for my beating now.... I hope you put enough lead in the end of your bat.
Me? Well I checked the air in my tires before loading up...
Todd

The pertinent facts.... let the chips fall where they may(i've done no math on it yet).

ZX12 .222 6.341 9.560
Gixxer .027 6.281 9.664

ZX12 .174 6.319 9.670
Gixxer -.072 Redlight

ZX12 .396 6.276 9.510
Gixxer .478 Lost clutch

ZX12 .288 6.190 9.404
Gixxer .033 6.247 9.632

ZX12 .259 6.235 9.457
Gixxer -.002 Redlight

ZX12 .071 6.315 9.560
Gixxer .397 6.187 9.569

ZX12 -.107 Redlight
Gixxer .299 6.255 9.627

ZX12 .214 6.231 9.488
Gixxer .217 6.516 9.384

ZX12 .179 Misshifts
Gixxer .479 6.116 9.380

I'll let you, Deb and anyone else that wants to do the math.
Simply add the RT to the ET for the 1/8th and the lowest number wins, then do the same for the 1/4.

Excellent day(with the exception of our all the hell over reaction times anyway).... we both did better then we've done before in a lot of areas(including you running a 9.4 on a stock wheelbase and me pulling a 1.53 60').
Todd

Here's what I have:

The lowest calculated 1/8 is 6.280 = Gixxer
The lowest calculated 1/4 is 9.601 = Gixxer
Under those terms Gixxer wins!

Just for stats on the heads up:
ZX12 has 5 - 1/8 wins & 4 - 1/4 wins
Gixxr has 4 - 1/8 wins & 5 - 1/4 wins

Here's my data, check my math.

I had ya a full tenth in the 1/8th, but the 1/4 put us LESS then three-hundreths apart! That's some close running for more then a run an hour for seven hours.

Good info there Deb, thanks.
I would of thought it would of been the other way around, but it's our inconsistency in reaction times that tipped the scales.
Todd

All said and done, I have to give major credit to Ali for the final sportsmanship by showing up at my shop today to hand me some $ and get one of our team decals to put on his bike(all of which was the agreed winnings).

With his best 1/8 and 1/4 times of 6.19 & 9.40, to my best of 6.11 & 9.38... the margin of victory was minimal for sure.

The winning run:


Thanks for a great day,
Todd

What is all this "do the math" crap? heads up first to the end wins! Reaction time doesnt really matter unless you are ET racing!

GET A LANE....... I wanna play.

(I need to rememebr to come over here more often)


Last weekend....
http://www.gulfimagesphoto.com/txsh2...708183060.html

You're kidding me right? Reaction time is EVERYTHING in heads up racing.... it's part of making it to the finish line first. Think about it!

The "math" needed done because the same RT needs figured into the 1/8 that was figured in the 1/4(yes, the RT is figured in the 1/4 for the win light :roll: ). This is needed because it was a 1/4 track and we were betting on both the 1/8times and 1/4times.

It's only CRAP to someone that doesn't understand the timing system.

Just because you have a faster elapsed time then me, doesn't mean you win the race. If you go 9.00 with a .100 reaction time and I go 9.05 with a .040 reaction time...... you lose(IE: I'll see the finish line first)!

And I think you're confusing the term ET(elapsed time) Racing(which is what anyone at a dragstrip does), with Bracket Racing(which is where you have to dial in your ET before each run).
Todd

Yep that my problem... I dont understand... :roll:

You better TREE me to high heaven to beat me. That I can promise. :twisted:

If you aint in the 8's you aint SH!t

Curious, what was your best ET on stock arm?

I'm hoping for high 8s w/a 60 shot and air shifter.

A.

I never drag raced the bike on stock wheel base. I only had the bike3 months when I decided to put the bolt on extensions on it.

That's it... berating me could possibly make you look better(and if not, cool effort on your part anyway).

You're right, I'm not in the 8's and I'm not shit in the world of drag racing(or any racing as far as that goes). I far from claim to be able to beat you(hell I barely beat Ali with n2o), and I congratulate you on running 8's... (depending on what you're doing it with) that's very commendable.

I also agree with you that you don't understand due to your own comment PREVIOUSLY on reaction time not mattering in heads up racing, and NOW stating that I better TREE you to beat you. Huh, which is it? Those statements have you contradicting yourself on the only two posts you made in this thread?
Hey no big deal to me, but you called what we did crap so I'm calling you on your shit by showing that you are clueless in regards to the statements you've made - it's not an argument, it's a fact by your own admission above!

If you don't believe that RT is a VERY crucial component to heads up racing, then sit at the tree next time an "equal" opponent launches in the other lane... not by calling out some guy that runs in the 9's!

And if you are running 8's, you should seriously make an effort to better understand the timing system you're being timed with.

No hard feelings on my part, I just don't like a serious effort and straight up way to measure performance being called crap by someone that thinks reaction time only matters in bracket racing.
Todd

First you should understand that my saying "If you dont run 8's you aint shit" is a slogan and was not directed at you. I use it all the time on many boards.

Second I meant that you better tree the hell outta me to beat me was because I do run much faster than you and it would take a half second "treein" me to win or even be close. Thats what I meant by that comment. None of my comments are ever (usually) directional.

Cheers!

;-)
Todd

:x

Would it help if I told ya how good it looks on there?
Todd

Hey, at least its black, right?

Rick is wrenchin on the air shifter as I type. May need to get some stiffer clutch springs too.....na mean? :wink:

Thats right!

Let me know if ya need any help on it and make sure your cylinder is free swinging and you check all your lines with windex when done(wiggle 'em good when doing it). And take pics to help the next 12 guy out.
BTW... I'm sure Matt states this but as a reminder, DO NOT ENERGIZE THE CYLINDER IF THE REAR WHEEL IS NOT MOVING!!!!

What's stock pressure and what's your total pressure now? I was in the 280lb range last I checked the gsxr I believe.

Means, Not Ali!
Todd