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Old 06-05-2006, 05:28 PM   #1
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HOW MUCH NOS ON A 2002 ZX12R WITH 2 STAGES DRY SHOT?

i am putting on 2 stages on my 2002 zx12r how much is safe without melting my motor? was thinking 10 off the line on the full throttle switch and anothe 30-40 on a timer total of 40-50 is this to much or should i go down to 10 off the line and 20 on the timer? the bike is streched 6-12 over setting about 8 over right now. full muzzy system kleen air removed power commaneder k&n filters 17 front 52 rear for now, auto air shifter fully adjustable lowering bones setting real low right now i am running 6.30's and i am 300 pounds. want a safe 2 stage dry shot but dont want to tear anything up. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR REAL WORLD ADVICE! thanks
   
 
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Old 06-05-2006, 06:45 PM   #2
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Skinart is running 90 shot dry one stage, with very little mods. You can run more with pc111 than without. I was thinking 60 ish cause 42 isnt really enough for me. Id say 20 off the line and 30 at second stage. I think the king set up runs around 60 total but youd have to search through the info. With a pc, I will move up to 80 in single stage dry. Someone in sale section has a wet kit for 300 bucks, its a safer 80 shot, put progressive controller for one shot that ramps up with rpms, you can use it sooner.
   
 
Old 06-06-2006, 10:12 AM   #3
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i have a complete wet system and a shnitz progressive box but dont want to use a wet sytem on the zx12, i am hiding it so that is kinda why! i am trying to do a 2 stage dry shot that is completlly hidden. like the one team lawson has but i am adding the timer for the first stage then got the kit from mps to have ther second stage on the starter button. or something like that i am back and forth! :)
   
 
Old 06-06-2006, 10:40 AM   #4
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My kit is totally hidden right now. I know what you mean about that. No way to hide the wet kit, thats what I want to do when the motor gets built for 150 shot. you should be able to run 20 off line and forty on button pretty easy. maybe put timing retard on button too for best results. Your logic with timer and mps kit should work out. I havent gotten to use a timer yet but with way the dry kit hits I dont really need it other than first gear. Nos in second even with single stage is completely doable. I hit in second no worries, maybe a lil wheelie action. My best launches have been with wheel skimming ground anyway if not 6 inches off of ground. In second as revs climb so does wheel so lay on the tank and take gearing into account when setting up timer. Strap the front end too or get it low as you can. what wheel base do you plan on, gearing etc. Its all synergistic, it works together.
   
 
Old 06-06-2006, 10:49 AM   #5
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i am sitting about 9 over right now. it is slammed on the ground and is 17 front 52 rear
   
 
Old 06-06-2006, 06:25 PM   #6
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iT IS GOING TO FLY WITH THE NOS AND YOU WILL HAVE NO PROB SPRAYING IN 2ND. sHIT i WOULDNT EVEN HAVE A PROGRESSIVE CONTROLLER WITH THAT STRETCH. i WOULD TRY TO SPRAY IN FIRST BUT PROB LOSE TRACTION. gET THE SHINKO OR SOMETHING BETTER AND GIVE HER A GO.
   
 
Old 09-05-2006, 12:54 PM   #7
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SPRAY

I'M SITTING ON A 65" WHEELBASE SPRAYIN 75 HP IN FIRST, STRAIGHT OFF THE LINE WITH NO PROGRESSIVE BOX. AS LONG AS YOUR GETTING TRACTION YOU WON'T NEED THE PROGRESSIVE BOX.

IF YOU DON'T WANNA RUN THE WET SYSTEM I'LL BUY IT
   
 
Old 09-05-2006, 01:00 PM   #8
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TIRE

ALSO I'D RUN THE PILOT POWER PR3 RACE BEFORE THE SCHINKO HOOKS BETTER AT A HIGH TIRE PRESSURE AND TIRE WEIGHS LESS. WE DYNO TUNE AT OUR SHOP AND THE SCHINKO'S ARE SO HEAVY THAT YOU ACTUALLY LOSE HORSE POWER, AND YOU'LL LOSE MPH IN THE 1/4
   
 
Old 09-05-2006, 01:37 PM   #9
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i am not using the progressive box just to clear it up never planned on using it on the zx12r it was from my wet setup i had on my cbr900rr for a min.
   
 
Old 09-06-2006, 06:08 AM   #10
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PRO BOX

IS IT THE SCHNITZ 2 DIAL? IF IT IS I'LL BUY IT
   
 
Old 09-06-2006, 07:42 AM   #11
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it is the 5 dial, the one that lets you do everything, it cost $499 new
   
 
Old 09-06-2006, 12:08 PM   #12
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5 DIAL

IS IT TIMED OR RPM ACTIVATED, AND HOW MUCH YOU WANT
   
 
Old 09-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #13
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Schnitz Electronics Progressive Nitrous Controller, 5 Dial - Schnitz Proven for 6 years!!
This is the same controller used by thousands of pro racers and pro street riders for the last 10 years!
The Schnitz Progressive Nitrous Controller utilizes a digital micro-controller for precise timing and control over the injection of nitrous oxide. The rate of nitrous injection is programmable for beginning and final power percentages. The unit also contains a built in digital delay timer alllowing precise control of the starting time of the nitrous injection. An advanced feature is the ability to select the pulse frequency that the nitrous and fuel solenoid operate at. Also, a 2 volt output is available for activating an ignition retard unit or relay. The output is controlled by a digital timer. The timer starts when the unit is activated.
Adjustable in 1% increments 20-100%.
Built in timers for the Progressive, and an additional timer that can control another stage of NOS.
No diodes, or relays needed, just five wires to hook-up.
Adjustable pulse frequency from 20 to 40.
Used by the fastest four cylinder cars and bikes in the country.
The PNC-101 comes with the wiring harness, but they are also available separately.

NOTE: The timer system in this unit will automatically reset 20 seconds after being activated. If the activation power is removed and then re-activated, the Progressive Nitrous Unit will continue from the point where activation was halted. If you get out of the throttle and get back into it, you pick up at the point where you left off at.



Item No. Description Amount Qty.
PNC-101 Schnitz Progressive Nitrous Controller $499.95
I WILL TAKE $350 SHIPPED ANYWHERE IN THE LOWER 48 STATES
   
 
Old 09-13-2006, 01:30 PM   #14
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On a wet system for the 12 where and how do you tap into the fuel. Or do you need an extra fuel pump or will the stock fuel pump handle the demand.
   
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