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post #16 of 38 Old 12-06-2015, 06:31 PM
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Sorry to hear , crashing sucks man...

Glad you are ok..

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It sure does. Wasn't the first and surely wasn't the last time I go skippin down the road. And it sucks equally as bad every single time...

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Yes sir it was. Cold tires cold pavement didn't work well for me today.
Glad you weren't hurt too bad..but ultimately, I'm sure you would agree, this was rider error. I've ridden lots of miles under 30f...no issue.

There is some irony, when people don't want electronics...but demonstrate why they can be of benefit. At least you aren't like My12R....who rips on electronics, and then proclaims that he won't ride his bike when it is less than 60f outside, because he might crash.

I always turn them off, personally...but it requires extra attention with that throttle hand, no doubt.

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I rode too yesterday. Not the 12, but my latest fun hot rod.

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Glad you weren't hurt too bad..but ultimately, I'm sure you would agree, this was rider error. I've ridden lots of miles under 30f...no issue.

There is some irony, when people don't want electronics...but demonstrate why they can be of benefit. At least you aren't like My12R....who rips on electronics, and then proclaims that he won't ride his bike when it is less than 60f outside, because he might crash.

I always turn them off, personally...but it requires extra attention with that throttle hand, no doubt.
Tire and ground were cold, tire is also new which doesn't help for sure not being fully scrubbed yet, wasn't going fast at all and wasn't even on the throttle when the ass came around. Was just a bad combo of new cold rubber on cold ground. Literally felt like I hit a patch of ice just came right out from under me before I knew it even broke loose. Never felt a thing was just all of a sudden sliding on my ass. At least it didn't catch fire after sliding like my last bike! Hah.

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Far as electronics, I know they will only get more and more intrusive with every new model. It's just the way it is now there is no stopping it. But I will personally never be for them on a motorcycle. Nothing against those who enjoy having it available. There is something so so very uncool about not having my hand in 100% control of the throttle that just bothers me to no end. The thought of a computer analyzing what I'm asking the throttle to do than making a decision for me as how much throttle I will get that is just completely and 100% unacceptable for me. It totally ruins the connection I have with the bike as well as that magic feeling hustling down a back road knowing at the end that, yea I did that with my experience and skills ... Crashing sucks, but I'll take the lessons learned over artificial intervention every time.

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Tire and ground were cold, tire is also new which doesn't help for sure not being fully scrubbed yet, wasn't going fast at all and wasn't even on the throttle when the ass came around. Was just a bad combo of new cold rubber on cold ground. Literally felt like I hit a patch of ice just came right out from under me before I knew it even broke loose. Never felt a thing was just all of a sudden sliding on my ass. At least it didn't catch fire after sliding like my last bike! Hah.
So, you are saying that you weren't applying any throttle, when the rear came around? How is that possible, technically? Were you on the rear brake?

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No not at all. I've crashed few times in my life this was for sure one of the strangest. Was making a left onto a side road from another side road, was in gear just coasting through the turn. Soon as I leaned I was on my back. Not sure if there was oil or smtg on the ground? After my 12 spread all 4 of her quarts on the road there was no way to tell what was there before. There was no leaves or any debris visable, and like I said after all my babies blood went everywhere I couldn't tell if maybe there was some liquid down before I hit it.

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And was the rear that washed out. Was an ice cold Diablo Corsa which is known for longer warm ups and being very slick when cold. Was also a brand new rear tire, which you know also doesn't help until it's scrubbed in.

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Same damn thing happened to me. Pulled off into a left turn, next thing I knew I was laying on my side, still in a riding position, and the bike was 10 feet away doing circles on its left side then quit. Happened quick as shit and wasn't goin very fast...maybe 5mph...but I imagine I may have gave her just a touch too much and the rear broke and off she went. Doesn't take much with these bikes and their touchy throttles. Sounds like you suffered more damage than I did. I kept the bent clutch lever on there. Modified to give me more pull...

Cost me $1,300 to repair mine with all new OEM parts. If your nose didn't get broke, you can knock $500 off that for a ballpark of what brand new parts would cost.

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I had a nose ($507) that was already cracked but let go so I replaced it as well. Sounds like one of the guys here has what ya need and most likely cheaper than OEM new. You'll be back up and running in no time. Ya learn to hold the clutch on a cold tire and cold road when turning so there is no chance of a hiccup of juice to that rear again...

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My poor 12 did the circle dance on it left side as it slid as well. Sucks... Possibly may need a left side panel but from my initial look oddly no plastics broke just all scuffed up. Going back to where it's at today to inspect it was to pissed off to take things apart yesterday. But only looked like the left side casing which punctured clear through, clutch lever and clipon which is no biggie. The mirror even folded in nicely and just got rashed up. Overall very lucky

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I ride in the winter all the time since I first started on the street. I've crashed before but this was my first cold weather downing. I'm always extra careful in the cold, but shit happens, bikes fall over sometimes it's just part of riding. I'll live to crash another day

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were you wearing any protective gear?
because if you were that would make you more likely to crash..

I just hope and pray you werent wearing a helmet, they will kill you...

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........and THAT is the reason I don't take my 12 out on days under 60°f anymore. ....
So if you are 1000 miles away and it dips below 60 do you have the bike shipped home ?

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