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post #16 of 63 Old 10-26-2015, 05:18 AM
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Those BSTs are gona look insanely good on that bike especially the single sided rear. They aren't cheap by any means but if u have the means that's one hell of a way to spend it. I know if I could, I would.

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Warp the front wheel saves 3 lbs but the back only 1 lb...

Don't get me wrong I WAsted money on titanium bolts so I'm all about rotating mass and unsprung weight, but do u think its worth it? Just a large cost as previously mentioned...

If ur planning on competing I guess leave no stone unturned but was just wondering ur thought process...

Also ur rear rim in the pic looks diff from the one 650ib just installed... Might it be a lighter version 2.0?
I am not sure his weights are correct...since he appeared to weigh the wheels with two different types/sizes of tires, on a scale with .5 lb resolution? I guess I will see. I am not going to make any judgement on them until I have them in my hands. As I posted on the H2 site, it is not just about the overall weight, but also where the weight falls on the rim. The biggest gain for BST's, by far, is in handling...and the bikes tend to jump out a little harder on the initial hit.

The advertised weights for the rims are 7 lbs front (matches IB's), and 7.05 lbs for rear. I will weigh them on my own scales.

The rim in the pic is probably a stock photo of a Ducati rim?

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Are you running pcv along.with the flash like brocks recomend?
Since I see people only run the flash and that it

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Brock responded to 650ib's video:

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Ib, I love you my friend and thanks for the vid! But you can't add tire weights into the measurements, and you can NEVER compare new tires to used tires, it's not uncommon for them to be 2-3 lbs. different. The RS10 is also a 190/55 series tire, it's taller, which makes it heavier.

Here are true wheel weights, using certified scales:

OEM H2 (2015) Front and Rear Wheel Weights

OEM Front (bare, w/ bearings):
10.00 lb. (add .10 for spacers)

BST Front (w spacers):
SIZE : 3.5" x 17"
WEIGHT : 7.00 lb. (3.17 kg)
Add .25 lb. (0.11 kg) with Worldwide Bearings ceramic bearings
Add .30 lb. (0.13 kg) with Worldwide Bearings steel bearings


OEM Rear Wheel (bare):
10.95 lb.

BST Rear:
SIZE : 6" x 17"
WEIGHT : 7.05 lb. (3.19 kg)

As you can see, there is 2.85 lbs. (w ceramics) front and 3.9 lbs. rear for a total unsprung difference of 6.75 lbs. But that doesn’t tell the whole story; the real difference is in the rotating mass. Since the weight of the BST’s are concentrated in the center of the hub (aka, lighter out toward the rim), they are easier to accelerate (Lower MOI).
As I say, I will weigh them on my own scales. In the past, I have found Brock's advertised numbers to be accurate.

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Are you running pcv along.with the flash like brocks recomend?
Since I see people only run the flash and that it
I have a PC-V here, to install. I haven't sent the ECU out yet. I figured there is no rush since the riding season is almost over. I always use a Power Commander because it allows you to tune for different fuels and track conditions.

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Looks good and that sound. I have'nt heard the full pipe on a h2 yet but if its better than yours I found my new ring tone. Redsled.
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I guess that's the way to get them. I would love to have a set on my 14r just haven't talked myself into it yet. By the way do you know how much weight saving they are over the stock gen 2 rims?

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Looks good and that sound. I have'nt heard the full pipe on a h2 yet but if its better than yours I found my new ring tone. Redsled.
I won't be running this slip-on for long...whatever muffler I run on the full pipe...will sound mean...promise.

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I was really surprised, the front being smaller in general and still able to save three pounds... How can the rear a bigger rim (more room to improve) be only a one lb improvement... Just doesn't make sense...

Again I am all for reducing moi unsprung and rotating mass etc etc etc...

The numbers just seemed off.

And warp you set an excellent example for all of us to dream of following... Thanks for the in depth threads And keep it up.

Congrats on the h2 and I can't wait to see what it will do.
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I was really surprised, the front being smaller in general and still able to save three pounds... How can the rear a bigger rim (more room to improve) be only a one lb improvement... Just doesn't make sense...

Again I am all for reducing moi unsprung and rotating mass etc etc etc...

The numbers just seemed off.

And warp you set an excellent example for all of us to dream of following... Thanks for the in depth threads And keep it up.

Congrats on the h2 and I can't wait to see what it will do.
Thanks! The wheels should arrive tomorrow, and I will try to post some pics. I probably wont be able to install them for at least a couple of weeks. I also have to do some research and decide what tire combo I want to run.

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Thanks! The wheels should arrive tomorrow, and I will try to post some pics. I probably wont be able to install them for at least a couple of weeks. I also have to do some research and decide what tire combo I want to run.
Looks like front saves 3 pounds and rear only 1 pound per 650ib video...I wonder if your weights will confirm that

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Looks like front saves 3 pounds and rear only 1 pound per 650ib video...I wonder if your weights will confirm that
As I posted above, Brock has already responded to that video:

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Here are true wheel weights, using certified scales:

OEM H2 (2015) Front and Rear Wheel Weights

OEM Front (bare, w/ bearings):
10.00 lb. (add .10 for spacers)

BST Front (w spacers):
SIZE : 3.5" x 17"
WEIGHT : 7.00 lb. (3.17 kg)
Add .25 lb. (0.11 kg) with Worldwide Bearings ceramic bearings
Add .30 lb. (0.13 kg) with Worldwide Bearings steel bearings


OEM Rear Wheel (bare):
10.95 lb.

BST Rear:
SIZE : 6" x 17"
WEIGHT : 7.05 lb. (3.19 kg)
I am expecting numbers closer to the above (3.9 lbs savings on the rear). You can't compare weights with different size tires with different wear levels, as I mentioned before. Typically, when Brock's posts weights, I have found them to be accurate. We will see....soon.

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I'll take 2 set for my 10Rs!....although the marchesini forged mags I have on one of them are just a few ounces heavier.
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I'll take 2 set for my 10Rs!....although the marchesini forged mags I have on one of them are just a few ounces heavier.
Everyone should have 2 sets. I have a set for each of my bikes.
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Got my set today. Beautiful!

Weighed them on my food scale:

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Front (w/spacers & ceramic bearings):



So, I'd say the advertised weights of about 7 lbs for each wheel are spot-on.

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