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post #1 of 9 Old 07-30-2007, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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quick courtroom question

is it generally frowned upon to sit in the back and yell the judge is a fuckin idiot?
seriously though. i was thinkin back to my 95 in a 65 ticket(paced) today. i went there several times to talk to the prosecutor. i tried telling him how being paced was kind of inaccurate, my previous driving record was good, etc. and all he was willing to do was drop it by 1MPH so i wouldn't lose my license. i hired a lawyer and he talked to the prosecutor and inside of 5 minutes he had reduced it to 72 in a 65 and lowered the $300ish fine down to like $120 or something. so i'm wondering, have any of you been in the negotiations phase between a lawyer and the prosecutor? i still can't figure out what this guy said to make my ticket less painful. maybe it was just the fact he was a lawyer? any thoughts?
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probably was'nt much said ...
you might have just missed the cash that traded hands or something
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probably was'nt much said ...
you might have just missed the cash that traded hands or something
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probably was'nt much said ...
you might have just missed the cash that traded hands or something
Oh, he'll miss the cash that was traded 'cause Skiddy will be payin for it.
he quoted me $600 when i first went to see him. went back after 3 or 4 months and quoted me $800. i said whoa, hold on there mother fucker.
lawyers are such thievin scumbags i wish they would all die. seriously.
he did it for the original $600 price.
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probably was'nt much said ...
you might have just missed the cash that traded hands or something
Oh, he'll miss the cash that was traded 'cause Skiddy will be payin for it.
he quoted me $600 when i first went to see him. went back after 3 or 4 months and quoted me $800. i said whoa, hold on there mother fucker.
lawyers are such thievin scumbags i wish they would all die. seriously.
he did it for the original $600 price.
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so where are all the cops lately? this is the ask the cops forum. so what gives? dunkin donuts havin a sale or something? or are you guys just playin hooligan cop in your new dodge magnums? :twisted:
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Sorry, short vacation to cape may. I think you answered your own question skid.
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damn, thats a little bit of a drive. why not just go to LBI or something?
so the fact that he was a lawyer did the trick? no magic words? no promises of a blowjob after court?
thats fuckin gay.
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That's pretty much it skid. Gotta remember, all involved including the judge are attorneys. In smaller towns, such as mine, they are part time employees of the twp ( judge and pros). They have their own pvt practices as well. They are honestly a great bunch of folks in my town, including the public defender and most of the defense attorneys.

I guess all towns work differently to some extent. In mine, the pros. will automatically offer a down grade for exchange for a guilty plea unless there are extenuating circumstances or if the officer involved marks the case as no plea. If that is done we have to be able to explain to the pros. why we do not want a downgrade and if our request is plausible the pros. will argue behind closed doors with the defense attorney and the outcome is typically take what deal the pros. offers or go to trial. Two of the few charges that are not downgradable are dwi and breath test refusal. Depending on what the judge and pros. set as limits, speeding can be downgraded to a much lesser no points violation. Lots of variables involved but usually a defense attorney will broker a better deal than that of the civilian defendant.

My best advice is to do exactly as you did. On the first court date plead not guilty and ask to speak with the prosecutor. If the deal he/she offers is not acceptable obtain the services of a local ( local to the court) defense attorney and go from there. Often a local attorney to the court will do better in getting you the deal you want rather than a out of area attorney simply because the local attorney knows the pros., judge and all the cops. Old boy network ya know :wink:
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